Wednesday, 19 August 2009

Jensen: Jesus’ Birth, Death & Resurrection (in balance)

There is a real danger of this becoming the 'Phillip Jensen Portal' instead of the Ugley Vicar Blog, but remembering the 'debates' on the relative status of Jesus' death and resurrection, here and elsewhere, I thought this video was a classic in cutting through the kerfuffle.

If you've still got questions, go to the website page, where there are links to other talks which, I'm sure, will treat the issues in greater depth. Don't ask me, Ask Phillip!


Ask Phillip - Jesus' birth, death & resurrection from Audio Advice on Vimeo.

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  1. As a counterpoint, see this column by an English 'Fulcrum' bishop about the Guardian religion columnist Stephen Bates (married to a 'charismatic evangelical Anglican), who is now an agnostic not apparently because of the inherent improbability of Christian truth claims but (we are told), the "nasty horribleness and hypocrisy" of evangelicals and catholics:
    Is this what passes for serious commentary in England? If so, it explains a lot.

    Mark B.

  2. That'll be Stephen Bates who's "now an agnostic", not his wife. Actually, the word 'now' here seems to mean, since about 1980. But I agree with him about Jesus and divorce.

  3. Bates has always been an elusive and fuzzy writer - maybe that goes with 'The Guardian' territory? When he wrote his 'The Church at War' about Anglicans and homosexuality and was relentlessly promoting it on blogs like titusonenine and others (Stand Firm etc), I repeatedly questioned him why he faulted traditional Anglicans when his own self-proclaimed Catholic faith taught no differently. Why didn't he look to his own house, I asked. Eventually he admitted he was something of an a la carte Catholic - which now looks like he was exaggerating (fancy a journo doing that!).
    If "Fulcrum" bishops want to hold up people like Stephen Bates as the cultured despisers Anglicans should be seeking to placate, I think they have lost the plot as well. The "culture" - at least that represented by liberal metropolitan newspapers - isn't seriously interested in Christianity.
    But the metropolitan populations (on both sides of the pond) are often quite different, with large and growing churches in the 'secular city', often drawing upon the immigrant population. I see, for example, that the 'Kingsway International Church' which has quite a following in London, is planning to open a megachurch in a disused cinema in South London. Now that will be something to comment on!
    How do English Anglicans cope with this?