tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9031852996869768738.post7738933097526523070..comments2024-03-29T08:14:29.603+01:00Comments on The Ugley Vicar: Suddenly it’s over for the Anglican CommunionAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03590979027426082714noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9031852996869768738.post-31501456208908006092009-03-14T04:09:00.000+01:002009-03-14T04:09:00.000+01:00The Rev. Richardson, simply speaking, has it right...The Rev. Richardson, simply speaking, has it right. There is nothing new in his proclamations, however he manages to summarize the situation on one page. Long term the Anglican Communion is toast as a united world-wide organization. I am a 63 year old cradle ex-Episcopalian whose parish left TEC six years ago for the greener pastures of the AMiA. Although this has been a successful organization, it began to practice some of the same old ideas of "control by the clergy" with no legally binding inut from the lay people who actually financially support the organization. Each "new" Anglican entity has its own ideas and practices. There is no reasonable way these entities can be bound together under one roof and be happy. My family has sought solace in a 84 year old Missouri Synod church. Nothing is perfect but we are happy.<BR/><BR/>FJAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9031852996869768738.post-90571562568099516032009-03-14T02:29:00.000+01:002009-03-14T02:29:00.000+01:00I can't see how a conservative church could hold e...I can't see how a conservative church could hold established, national status in what is essentially a secular country. A split would be the obvious outcome, but there would certainly be no taking of assets with those who decided to follow a conservative path. Probably a good few years of uneasy co-operation is likely<BR/><BR/>Mike Homfray<BR/>LiverpoolMerseymikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07231364271812168188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9031852996869768738.post-80229164747345670852009-03-10T00:11:00.000+01:002009-03-10T00:11:00.000+01:00"The launch in this country later this year of the..."The launch in this country later this year of the Fellowship of Confessing Anglicans....."<BR/><BR/>John, what's this? Have I missed something? I thought I already was a member?...<BR/><BR/><BR/>Neil Barber, Derby, UK.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9031852996869768738.post-56544208047238418972009-03-09T18:22:00.000+01:002009-03-09T18:22:00.000+01:00Thankfully there are some of us in Wales, having s...Thankfully there are some of us in Wales, having signed up to the Jerusalem Declaration, have not yet gone over to North America. But the overall analysis here is depressing but has the ring of truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9031852996869768738.post-8708133163912125032009-03-09T17:30:00.000+01:002009-03-09T17:30:00.000+01:00John,You wrote, "Indeed in my own view the Canadia...John,<BR/>You wrote, "Indeed in my own view the Canadians are currently ahead of the Americans in this regard." I agree with you on that and it has been puzzling that the focus has been more on TEC than on the ACofC. Perhaps this has been a symptom of the negative opinion that many in the world have of the US. So, I appreciate your more reasoned assessment.<BR/>As to global Anglicanism being no longer the prize, I suspect that you are right, at least in the sense that those who wanted, in my view, to remake Anglicanism confessional rather than relational have given up.Daniel Weirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11430381764138066595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9031852996869768738.post-91279184485724467652009-03-09T17:09:00.000+01:002009-03-09T17:09:00.000+01:00What does 'realpolitik' mean here? One realpolitik...What does 'realpolitik' mean here? One realpolitik view is that faithful, stable, same sex relationships lived out openly in Western society are here to stay. Canada, TEC, Wales and Scotland arguably are exhibiting a realpolitik approach to this phenomenon in Western society. Has the fight for an ideal Anglican Communion been lost? Possibly, perhaps probably. But is that solely because TEC etc have proved stubborn opponents? Could it also be that deep down we are recognising our changed society is racing further away from us the more we fight such battles? (I am not so much trying to argue a point here as seeking insight into why the wind may have gone out of our sails. But it is also possible that this phase which disturbs you is a lull before another storm!)Peter Carrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09535218286799156659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9031852996869768738.post-2930865990509028382009-03-09T14:59:00.000+01:002009-03-09T14:59:00.000+01:00One of the few times I wish I were still in TEC, s...One of the few times I wish I were still in TEC, so I could with any legitimacy write the local bishop and Standing Committee. However, the game has been over, at least in North America, for some time now. <BR/><BR/>+Cantuar is going to visit the General Convention this year, and he should at least get a view of what the real TEC is. Not that he will act of course, but at least there will be no room for any illusions.Tregonseehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01705100658499499100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9031852996869768738.post-68695336909505870682009-03-09T11:27:00.000+01:002009-03-09T11:27:00.000+01:00Thanks John. Insightful, challenging and disturbin...Thanks John. Insightful, challenging and disturbing. I guess we all have to wait and see what comes next.<BR/><BR/>Mark Thompson, SydneyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com