tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9031852996869768738.post2526275382657688929..comments2024-03-29T08:14:29.603+01:00Comments on The Ugley Vicar: Jeffrey John: now you see him ...?Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03590979027426082714noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9031852996869768738.post-33880610372341799962010-07-10T22:14:40.104+01:002010-07-10T22:14:40.104+01:00Putting Jeffrey Johns homosexuality aside...
His ...Putting Jeffrey Johns homosexuality aside...<br /><br />His rejection of the Biblical and church doctrine of penal atonement calls into question his orthodoxy. To reject the saving blood of the lamb is to reject Christ as saviour.<br /><br />He shouldn't be allowed to be a Sunday teacher let alone a bishop on this point alone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9031852996869768738.post-56871020602989321342010-07-10T10:45:09.898+01:002010-07-10T10:45:09.898+01:00There are three possibilities here:
1. The conspi...There are three possibilities here:<br /><br />1. The conspiracy theory that liberals (eg<br />Paranoid, oops, sorry I mean Thinking, Anglicans) are peddling: Jeffrey John was under serious consideration, his appointment looked likely, and an Evangelical leaked to try and prevent this happening.<br /><br />2. The alternative conspiracy theory: Jeffrey John had been mentioned, but his appointment looked unlikely, so liberals (Colin Slee?) leaked as a way of putting pressure on the CNC and embarrasing Rowan Williams into backing Jeffrey John, but the plan backfired on them. It is a little suspicious that Colin Coward, Riazat Butt, and Stephen Bates are all now claiming inside knowledge of what happened on the commission after the first story broke. Strangely, no-one on "Thinking" Anglicans seems to find this leak outrageoous, only the first one.<br /><br />3. There was no conspiracy, and maybe no leak: as I said on the other thread, this stinks of an artificially created crisis. The "news" all comes from Jonathan Wynne-Jones and as far as I can tell, nowhere does he actually say that he has a source on the CNC. As Nick Baines has pointed out, Wynne-Jones misrepresents the appointment process, not least the amount of power that the Archbishop of Canterbury has. It could be that he's heard some gossip, and decided to turn it into a story. The blustering defensiveness on his blog makes me wonder if this is what has happened.<br /><br />Stephen Walton, MarburyStephen Waltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18442509405293891085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9031852996869768738.post-63395058533378831132010-07-10T09:19:26.885+01:002010-07-10T09:19:26.885+01:00The system is not all that bad. It prevents the ap...The system is not all that bad. It prevents the appointment of bishops who are not acceptable to the local leadership or representatives of synod. It requires a review of the needs and aspirations of the diocese. It's strength or weakness is that it is an efficient cloning process. The church perpetuates itself in its own image. without structural change, it could produce very different results if the Archbishops wanted it to. They are on each committee and hopefully have the best ongoing knowledge of potential candidates. What actually happened is shrouded in mystery. See Nick Baines Blog http://nickbaines.wordpress.com/2010/07/07/media-literacy-lesson-1Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05411510481652613673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9031852996869768738.post-72338094475845563202010-07-09T06:19:25.542+01:002010-07-09T06:19:25.542+01:00This is very sad news. I am thoroughly ashamed of ...This is very sad news. I am thoroughly ashamed of those people who call themselves Christians and say they follow Jesus Christ, yet have shown no grace towards this particular clergyman. <br /><br /><br />For goodness sake, it's not as if he was going to be the first homosexual bishop in the Church of England. Also in his favour is his celibacy. <br /><br /><br />As TPTB have been bullied into rejecting him for Southwark, I sincerely hope he will be offered Lincoln, where I have no doubt we shall welcome a holy man of his calibre with open arms.Battersea Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11723753302380776426noreply@blogger.com